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Bob Mason's avatar

Bahahahaha! Fabulous stuff, Nat. And ‘catastrophically’ is no hyperbole. It’s like a choice between cold fries and warm beer. Neither main leader is particularly terrible - they are just about OK at going through their political spiel and motions - but they are both such uninspiring midwits, incapable of the ambitious, joined-up thinking that NZ desperately needs. Meanwhile, our fiscal and social situation continues to fray and unravel… I’m both excited for this election as an Opportunity party supporter, and dreading it because of the thin gruel on offer from the ‘established’ parties. Politics is such a bad drug sometimes, eh…?

Dan Keane's avatar

This is great! Thanks for shouting it: neither has anything like a vision that matches the moment. (Winnie, unfortunately, is the only one who knows what time it is.)

But I wonder about the limits of Carney's speech in domestic politics. I get your broader point here: manage a plurality of values around shared interests. But relations between nations aren't governing, they're diplomacy, performed with an entire nation at your back. The shared Canadian interests that vaulted Carney to power are simple: "sovereignty and territorial integrity," as you put it. New Zealand does not feel so clear a threat. There are plenty, from all over the place--but uniting around one (climate change, say, or a strong economy) starts to edge us from basic interests into the values NZ will forever argue over. "Sovereignty and territorial integrity" can't build a hospital. "Human rights" seems pretty basic, but ACT won't ban slavery.

Maybe we need the language & vision to make less-negotiable "shared interests" a broader category. Can building hospitals (or some such) be reframed as national interest, rather than shared values? Maybe a new shared-interests nationalism, like that of a spurned Canada, is a way to get us there? I don't know. Thanks for the good think this morning!

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